Creator: Sandbagger || First Published: 09/01/2021 || Players: 2 || Size: 19x19
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| Categories: B-Rank, Base Light, Fog of War | ||
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Sandbagger (09/01/2021 12:45pm):
For fog |
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TheGamerASD (09/05/2021 11:19am | Edited: 09/05/2021 11:20am):
Piperunners should be banned, you can just build one in the corner base and shoot your opponents units. |
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Ilese (09/05/2021 02:49pm):
Agree |
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Hanakko (09/29/2021 04:19am):
Recons should be banned, you can just build one in the corner base and see your opponents units. |
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Ilese (09/29/2021 04:53am):
Yeah lets stare them to death! |
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Wequito 4 (09/29/2021 08:10am):
I Can see the Future... Complaint will be: X CO Can build Piperunner (Sasha?), X CO is Too Good (Sonja?), X CO Sucks (Max?) |
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Tmi489 (10/01/2021 05:43pm):
Missiles should be banned, you can just build one in the corner base and shoot your opponents airdudes. |
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Deleuze (10/01/2021 07:45pm):
I really like this use of labs and the spare intel base. This seems like it would make for some interesting play situations, and as far as it seems, it's a solid map. |
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Moriya (10/02/2021 01:55am):
But let me ask you this: Are these systems used for defense? |
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KurisuMurei (10/02/2021 04:13pm | Edited: 10/02/2021 10:06pm):
I wonder if this map would be better with a seam on the corner pipes, north of the Orange corner factory and south of the Blue corner factory...then again, a day 3 tank would probably do some work on it early, causing things to escalate too quickly unless one of the factories for each side is either removed or neutral. |
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KANBEI NEED BASES (10/04/2021 11:06am):
Missiles should be banned. You lock the only airport of the ennemy for at least 2 to 3 turns, depending on when the artillery kill it, leaving the player who control the missile able to create stealths that won't be stop for many turns. And i also don't like maps w 2 bases. |
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holycraptastical (10/04/2021 08:58pm):
Why bother making this fog of war if you can recon your enemies bases? |
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Ilese (10/04/2021 09:19pm):
I thought thats why you want to use recon in fog of war? |
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holycraptastical (10/10/2021 06:23pm):
That is the point of recons, yes. It is still dumb you can spawn one in your opponent's base at any time. Even if your opponent gives up a turn or two building artillery to guard the recon point you can still for the low cost of 4000 scout his base. And if they don't, a missile will shut down airport use until they do. Not like 4000 is even a loss when you only have 2 bases to use anyways. |
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Ilese (10/11/2021 12:26am):
Well, thats seem broken until you realize knowing what your enemy build in a turn or two (and you cant even scout 2 bases at once) doesnt mean auto win a game, or spending 12k on a missile that dont have guarantee chance to kill enemy copter seem to be an over-glorified recon. |
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Lost and French (10/17/2021 05:32pm):
"Not like 4000 is even a loss" is a line I've never seen good players say before, especially considering the fog gamemode's metagame revolves around having more army than the opponent in a given spot so that you can attack there without risking losses... Building missiles there also comes at the cost of two tanks (2 infs + missile = 2 tanks) so if you get your missiles discovered by an untimely tank/recon build they can pretty much just run over your board right there usually. |
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EFKalcifur (10/23/2021 12:03pm):
This is definitely my favorite addition to the FOW pool, the mind games possible with the production recon is just too much fun to pass up on. Definitely a part of me that wishes it could be a 3 base match, but the map's gimmick is worth that trade-off for sure. |
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KaiHF (10/24/2021 11:48am | Edited: 10/24/2021 12:50pm):
this map kinda has a little bit of everything i don't like, lab's instead of HQ's Black boats ontop of them, only two real bases to work with, com towers in the corners, a lack of mountains, not a map I'd pick for a casual match but works for league I guess. |
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Flooken (11/16/2021 04:42pm):
Looks different.Will I have another bad time on it? |
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RadianBoy (12/06/2021 05:01pm):
Oh men how many games will I have to play on that map |
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knighgunner22 (12/19/2021 06:37am):
ok |
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dallyranks (12/27/2021 09:35am):
I hate this shitty map |
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Weenie Hut (12/29/2021 05:33pm):
Sonja should be banned. Sonja day 2 artillery can lock out an opponent city. |
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Shanka DaWanka (01/07/2022 08:47pm):
I have never seen a map with this many calls to ban stuff before. What the hell happened? |
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Weenie Hut (01/08/2022 11:39pm):
Addenum: Sonja should be fine. Kindle can hit the artillery with urban blight. |
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OrangeJu1ce (02/07/2022 07:55pm):
This might be the worst rated map in the global league @ 2.85/5 (at the time of this writing), take it out already |
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LazyB (11/22/2022 12:12am):
I will hate this map in the rain, I will hate this map in the snow, I will hate this map I tell you, I will hate this map now you know. |
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COMMANDERWOLF (11/23/2022 08:44pm | Edited: 11/23/2022 09:25pm):
I actually kinda like the map. Just be really careful on which C.O. you choose just like every map. It comes with risks and rewards like every map. Every C.O has weakness and strong points and you have the same options as your opponent as far as everything is concerned. |
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Ranu (12/02/2022 08:27pm):
I heavily dislike the fact that Sonja Piperunner can lock your opponent out of a base AND an airport at the same time. Like what the hell, who thought that is a good idea. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Your stopping 2 unit production spaces and the only way the opponent can properly respond to it is to either A: already have artilery fire at it before you get a turn with it or B drive an artilery from the other base to the base that is under fire, somehow unharmed and kill the piperunner before it destroys the artillery. Either way, if you manage to build a piperunner, your opponent is going to have a bad time. |
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ThunnusEutrema (01/14/2023 09:04am):
Pipe boy is banned |
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haissake (01/15/2023 04:55am):
Sonja fans are getting really creative with their map designs, like spending all your money on a piperunner would stop you from getting anhiliated by Kindle anyway. |
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Thavidu (01/22/2023 04:52pm):
Equal income (both player tied in income) = 19K |
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Phog737 (03/24/2023 10:58pm):
I don't understand why people complain about piperunner on this map when it's high price make it unviable with the somewhat low income of the map |
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thrownaway (03/26/2023 02:28pm):
Missile is a non-issue since it's not worth the money just to get some vision and lock down the opponent's airport, especially when the opponent can park an artillery nearby and shoot at it every couple of turns to drain 2800 of your income every round. Baselocking with a piperunner does seem genuinely gamebreaking since the opponent's only real solution would be to run an artillery all the way around from the forward base, which would take like 4 turns, but it requires so much money that it's unlikely to actually happen, but I dislike the possibility none the less. |
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DaysOfPlague (03/31/2025 11:42pm):
v2 of the map here: https://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=142984 |
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