Empire Fields
Creator: JJEmpire64 || First Published: N/A || Players: 2 || Size: 21x23
Categories: New, High Funds, Mixed Base
Rating: 4.21 in 14 ratings
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Comments:
JJEmpire64 (12/03/2023 09:54pm):
Original map designed by Walker Boh: https://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=143288
With several changes for GC2 R1.
Cross n Fox (12/11/2023 03:09am):
just had the wildest game on this map. Too fun.
Profeta7 (12/11/2023 06:33pm):
Boring map (purely subjective)...
Witte711 (12/11/2023 10:33pm):
Don't forget the one lab in the middle is your only one
DanielMoreno (12/12/2023 03:58pm | Edited: 12/14/2023 07:07pm):
I wonder if the FTA counter is wrong. Player 2 will get infantry first to the
island and player 1 will get both airports first, seems no
in the spirit of FTA counter.
AceVanCleef (12/13/2023 07:37pm):
FTA insufficient. Player 2 gets infantry onto the island first, forcing player 1 to respond.
Naberius Buster (12/14/2023 01:52pm | Edited: 08/20/2024 09:15am):
Giving Player 1 both the Black Boat and Copter Initiative is a bit too much. 2 extra Infantry won't help Player 2 all that much
when Player 1 gets to dictate where the fights on the island happen.

Player 1 can secure his own port easily while simultaneously denying Player 2 his own (thanks to the Lab Black Boat).

The inbalance can be greatly mitigated by land locking the HQ Black Boat which puts more emphasis on the fights in the
corners.
Rock Golem (12/15/2023 09:57pm):
....*sigh*....People cannot play an unconventional map to save their lives.
Azarel (12/16/2023 01:08pm):
The map has FTA because of the reasons Naberius Buster explained, but it's only if Lash or Kindle are involved since they get the firepower boost from sitting on properties.

Other COs will lose 1v2
Naberius Buster (12/17/2023 11:24pm | Edited: 12/18/2023 10:22am):
I just got done crunching the numbers on the results of round 1 thus far (1/3 of the games are over), and they are nuts!

The overall Player 1 win rate for the Glenstorm Cup 2 is 41.88%. That is a bit worrying.
The Player 1 win rate when you ignore the games where P1 picked Lash is 29.85%! WTH JJEmpire!
The Player 1 win rate for games where P1 choose Lash is 58%. In what universe is doubling the P1 win rate balanced!?

TLDR: Player 2 crushes Player 1 but Player 1 Lash crushes Player 2 right back!
Sneed (Formerly Chuck) (12/30/2023 12:36am):
Great map. I've never seen land, air, and naval combat combined so well.

The player 1 win rate is currently 51% according to the Map Analysis page, so FTA balance would seem to be fine.
Also... Yes, Lash is clearly the best choice for this map. But come on, how often does Lash get to be good?
Naberius Buster (12/30/2023 12:14pm):
A decent chunk of the Player 1 win rate comes from Astaroth playing a series of games as Player Lash vs assorted COs and
winning against all of the ones that don't have Transport Move boost (Sami & Drake) or stronger Infantry (Sami & Sensei). The
win rate for the tournament itself is quite a bit worse for Player 1.
TheGhurd (01/04/2024 06:03am):
Playing as player 2, I thought myself to be at the advantage as my starting infantry were able to lock down contested cities.
Moving your Bboat off the lab isn't an advantage, it's just a risk that in my experience didn't work out (for my opponent)

I think this map has potential. I love the mini frontlets in the corners, but they dont really matter when it's just an infantry
battle in the center. I would say there are two solutions
1: replace the Bboat with a lander.
2: greatly reduce the value the central island has on the game.

P.S. Ofc I was lash
Rock Golem (04/09/2024 12:28am):
Okay so the answer, was to have, 2 labs per player. If you wanna get fancy you can have a neutral lab that you can cap just in time but only if it hurts your economy. You could also make the boat a sub, so you can just dive it, and move the shoals so you can't resupply it. Makes all inning the lab super early a lot less decisive. But lets the lab still be vulnerable....unless they pick Jess but uuuuuuuuuuuh. Then they lose for other reasons.
JJEmpire64 (11/20/2024 06:27pm):
Just replaced the notorious Lab BBoats with Carriers and renamed the map to "Empire Fields". Hopefully I can bring this map
back for a future Glenstorm Cup and a proper showing.
Meta Rexy (11/27/2024 05:11pm):
Kindle will always have an edge whenever an expensive unit sits on a lab or hq. The tougher the unit, the better her urban blight is.

Still, if you plan on using this map with T4 then that's irrelevant.

Nice edits.



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