Memento
Creator: Dr Noxious || First Published: 11/08/2024 || Players: 2 || Size: 21x15
Categories: A-Rank, Base Light, Live Play, Standard
Rating: 6.50 in 4 ratings
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Comments:
Dr Noxious (11/08/2024 06:33pm):
tank order BAAB
Dr Noxious (11/08/2024 06:33pm):
18k even split
Quickslow87 (05/02/2025 11:03pm):
I enjoyed it.
MontySigurdson (07/06/2025 05:44am | Edited: 07/06/2025 05:55am):
Removed from Live and moved to B-rank due to two reasons:

1) P1 (and only P1) can skip a capture as early as day 2 and still get the intended BAAB tank order. This allows P1 to get the Com Tower chain faster or allows them to get to that center forest first if they cap (10,05) first.

2) Speaking of that forest, the center looks like it has TA as whoever gets to sit on that forest first (usually P2, maybe P1 with the city skip strat) gets to pick which of the left/right central cities to cap first. Assuming P2 gets to sit on the forest, if the P1 Inf moves off the upper central city to cap either the left or right central cities, the P2 Inf can block the city P1 was going to cap and cap it for themselves and possibly also move a tank onto the silo to discourage the other player from interrupting.

This P2 advantage can probably be somewhat mitigated if P1 utilizes the city skip but P1 has to know to do that (and memorization-based openings are not suitable for Live). If P1 uses it to get to the center first, you get FTA instead of STA so that's not ideal either. Though the FTA in the center is probably not as strong as the STA would be otherwise because P1's first tank does not arrive in time to block the silo.

The winrates seem to suggest as well that P2 usually has the advantage here (though the sample size is somewhat low, so take it with a grain of salt). So the center probably needs to be looked at and the city skip strats for P1 should be removed to make it Live-suitable again.
Dr Noxious (07/06/2025 06:15am):
Ok made the center a sea tile to avoid the mid ta also gave P1 another cap and slowed a P2 chain, also have the front some tweaks
MontySigurdson (07/06/2025 04:24pm):
Moved back to A-rank, but P1 still has the city skip strat (can be used to go for the (06,04) city immediately so P1 is closer to the Com Tower chain on that side), so I'll leave off the Live tag for now.
Walker Boh (08/15/2025 02:10am):
If P2 skips for the [06,04] city right away, the vehicle order is ABAB, but P2 can go tank -> copter, which P1 can't answer
easily if they go tank/tank. And in this scenario P2 can still contest the center pair of cities with an inf if P1 rushes it.

If P2 doesn't skip, the vehicle order is BAAB, and P2 can still go tank/copter, with the same problem for P1. And P2 can still
contest one of the center pair of cities, even with P1 one turn ahead.

Is there a different city skip line that causes TA?
MontySigurdson (08/16/2025 04:06pm):
Readded to Live.



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