wwzone
Creator: smashkirby63 || First Published: 11/23/2006 || Players: 14 || Size: 40x40
Categories: None
Rating: 4.84 in 32 ratings
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Comments:
jhuni (11/23/2006 07:05pm):
Clearly imbalanced, and clearly has bad terrain variety with 0 reefs. 1/10, sorry
smashkirby63 (11/23/2006 07:08pm):
why the heck do I need reefs!? FINE I'll EDIT IT! GOD!
smashkirby63 (11/23/2006 07:21pm | Edited: 11/23/2006 07:23pm):
OKAY, I EDITED IT! Now, just so you guys know, the imbalance is so people get used to their spot on the map,
and they have some sort of "advantage" on their turf. So basically, invaders are almost instantly screwed. (kind of)
so don't come complaining to me about, "It's too imbalanced!" or, "FTA!!!" I ain't gonna listen to those, without some
kind of explanation. Smash, OUT!
THE_Chosen_One (11/23/2006 08:31pm | Edited: 11/25/2006 02:25pm):
why are only two countries connected?? Be more consistent
sirfuxalot (11/23/2006 08:44pm):
But...this is a terrible map. You need to start smaller.
Darth Hawke (11/23/2006 09:38pm):
I like it, and I personally don't like reefs. Especially in FoW. DON'T YOU DARE PUT IT ON
FoW!!!
kanatu (11/23/2006 10:45pm | Edited: 11/23/2006 10:48pm):
This looks fairly possible for each country. The ones who have an immediate enemy also
serves as easy funds later on in the battle. The battle will drag on, but it could be fun.
BM could use 2 forests like every other country though, as it serves as minor FOW cover.

EDIT- Please unblock the port that is completely blocked by shoals. It would be an
unfair sea battle for PL otherwise.
Hans Lemurson (11/23/2006 11:11pm):
Reefs are the only "terrain" available in the sea. Without reefs, naval battles become
about as fun as an all-roads fight. It's also essential for FOW battles, as it allows for
proper cunning.

However, I will say that just because you are allowed a 40x40 and 14 players, it doesn't
mean that you have to use it.
dai (11/23/2006 11:31pm):
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smashkirby63 (11/24/2006 11:57am):
to sirfuxalot: Screw you.
to Darth Hawke: Thank you for understanding my point of view. I hate reefs, too. I only
added them because of the complainers.
to Kanatu: Thank you for the comment. I agree that I should unlock PL's port, but if pl
survives and takes his immediate enemy's port, them there would be no need. that was the
original idea. Bm does need some forest, but then again, it gives him fow advantage to
always see his enemies.
to Hans Lemurson: I honestly hate reefs. And the original idea was to make a world war
using ALL 14 nations against eachother. The easiest way I could do that is 40x40. So,
SCREW YOU!
to dai: ???
sirfuxalot (11/25/2006 12:46pm):
Sorry, you just need to understand the map isn't perfect. If you can't accept criticism,
you're no better than grizly-sword. If you want to improve your mapmaking skills just try
to listen to comments.
son of ff (11/25/2006 01:12pm):
17 Ph41lZ
smashkirby63 (11/25/2006 02:31pm):
to sirfuxalot: The idea was for a 14 player free-for-all. that is why it is big!!! >:(
gamewizard (11/25/2006 02:38pm):
I can see the concept behind this map, yea...but ever country should be linked to another
one, cause teh ones tat arn connected are going to go a lot of turns without doing anthing,
just waiting for funds to build a BB or lander to get to another island.
smashkirby63 (11/25/2006 02:44pm):
That is really the point.
CrazyLuigi (11/25/2006 08:05pm):
Meh, I really like the concept behind this, though I'm a n00b at making maps so.... :P
Fuzzypickles (11/25/2006 09:50pm):
You have to make the map fair. Making it so PL doesn't have an effective port and saying
that they should take the other team's port is kinda ridiculous. The map just seems
randomly put together, and as a result it's very imbalanced. It's not as fun to play a map
if you're one of the countries that got screwed over because the map is stacked against you.

And really, you're acting remarkably immature to criticism. They're trying to HELP you
make a better map.
Animostas (11/25/2006 11:04pm):
The players are mostly just going to be waiting for funds to build so that they can send
decent units against other islands. A lander (12000) with two tanks for example (total of
14000) will be 26000 total. That's about 7 days of just waiting for an island that's singled out.
the ones connected only wait 4 days. Not only is that rigged, but also boring. It'll probably
take a week before everyone gets through one turn, so the game will take far too long for
any action to occur.
smashkirby63 (11/26/2006 04:05pm):
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Heartless (11/26/2006 04:16pm):
You complain about jhuni but he's right. This map isn't good. You see

- There are no neutral things to fight for. Capture what's on your island and you're stuck
with that. It also leads to lack of funds, which naval battle requires a lot.
- GS and AB lack the space to build enough units.
- OS and an FTA advantage over PC and BM over BD.
smashkirby63 (11/26/2006 04:55pm):
...................................................................................no longer taking comments..............
sirfuxalot (11/30/2006 08:22pm):
I'm sorry I just won't comment on youre maps since you aren't taking advice. I just
personally wouldn't play on this map because I like smaller quicker maps.
hudad55 (12/15/2006 08:23pm):
listen, all you guys like jhuni and sirfuxalot. Some people would rather have their own map-
making style, like me. I've only made 1 map, but I think it's good. You think all of yours are
good, right? Well we think ours are, and if you can't respect that, then maybe you should
shut up. How would you have liked it if we constantly bombed on you when you just started
out? If people did it and you know how it feels, then just shut up and let us do our thing. Was
I clear enough? If not, I can go a LOT longer than this. Hudad, signing off. . ..
Calvacadeofcats (12/15/2006 08:35pm):
Hmm.

It's interesting that the whole flamewar dynamic can evolve on the limited space of
comments on a single map.

Impressive, really.

Hudad, I love your grade-school councilor spiel, but it occurs that people might
legitimately want to comment on maps for reasons other than to lavish unconditional love
on it and its maker. It seems slightly odd to oppose that.
Heartless (12/15/2006 09:32pm):
"You think all of yours are good, right? "

Nope, most of my maps aren't worth **** and gets lot's of negative comments. But I learn
from those maps and now, some of the maps I'm making are perfectly livable.
hudad55 (12/17/2006 08:26am | Edited: 12/17/2006 08:28am):
I learn from my mistakes, but smash obviously can't. Just an F-Y-I, if you don't like your
maps, listen to the negative comments' suggestions unless they all just flame you.

EDIT: This is like a broken record, we're all going around and around with the same concept.
It's getting really monotinious.
sirfuxalot (12/20/2006 04:58pm):
That's why this map is so bad; he's not listening to comments, and the large portion of
the people that have commented on it say it's bad. Everyone has to start somewhere(as I
did), but this guy is going nowhere.
Mantimus Prime (12/21/2006 10:18am | Edited: 12/21/2006 10:20am):
"I honestly hate reefs. And the original idea was to make a world war
using ALL 14 nations against eachother. The easiest way I could do that is 40x40. So,
SCREW YOU! "

What the hell?

If you don't want anyone to tell you how to improve, that's fine, but you're just going to
keep on sucking. And you know we're right because you've stopped trying to argue against us.
smashkirby63 (12/27/2006 06:58pm):
To Mantimus: That comment had no reason for it what so ever. You really did not listen to
that quote. Please read Hans Lemerson's comment, then read my response again. If you
read both, then you will realize why I said that. You just came out of no where and started
dissing me, anyway. On plenty of my maps. I'm sick of it. You seem like I know you from my
school. There's one advance wars fanatic that hates me. If you aer that person, then I
wouldn't be suprised.
Athrosu (10/14/2007 03:29pm):
This is a map that REALLY wasn't thought through. A slow, boring, and dull naval map where
it takes dozens of turns to build up a useful navy due to a lack of properties, no thought
has been given to the differences between the teams, directly attacking another player's
territory is very difficult, and Grit is undefeatable on offense or defense. Is this your
first map?
Eaglecris (10/14/2007 04:40pm):
So...when is it starting?
sterm (10/14/2007 07:01pm):
I like your map.
amr40 (10/22/2007 03:30pm):
i personally dont see whats wrong with it tbh,

and i dont see why everyone likes reefs [?]
Sir_Mark (10/22/2007 04:06pm):
You can say this is mostly a time wasting map with nothing that will be done,but there are a
few possible explaintions to this map. (Positve and Negative)

-Orange Star and Pink Cosmos are there so the other players don't get bored sitting on their
island all day. And since they will probably battle each other,it is probably best to send in a
battleship and destory the heck out of both of them so they are out of the way.
-If you don't have many active players,this map may take over a year,and that is a problem...
-Yes,everyone has to start somewhere,but don't just yell at them to accept your idea. The
mapmaker makes the choice.
-Some nations won't stand a chance agaist others due to small land area. However,if you
have allies,it can make all the difference in the long run.

This may not be the best map in the world,and I really don't wish to wait a long time to get
done with it,but with active players,this map can be decent. 6/10
punyinfantry (10/22/2007 07:13pm | Edited: 10/22/2007 07:17pm):
Everyone...this map is playable. So great, Also, it's his map so be nice while
commenting or else you will get flamed back. If you don't like it, don't play it...i have
seen maps that are BAD.

I don't really see why everyone bitches about funds. So what? Crank it up to 5000.
coolman1250 (01/07/2008 01:32pm):
ok, why my map gets deleted but not his?
DuelStriker (01/07/2008 04:54pm):
coolman1250 (01/07/2008 01:32pm):
ok, why my map gets deleted but not his?

Because your map was LOLPHAIL, it sucked, and was a waste of space on the site,
kthxbai.
etham56 (01/12/2008 06:18pm):
DONT USE LANGUAGE!I TOOK IT OFFENCEVE!
Meta Rexy (10/19/2008 12:40pm):
..........
1/10.
Main problem is that you need to connect EVERYBODY somehow... even if it's a chokepoint
it's better than waiting for battleships and black boats
mrapex (10/19/2008 02:16pm):
definatly playable. 7/10
airob (01/13/2009 08:06pm | Edited: 01/28/2009 06:53pm):
this has become somewhat a forum debateXD
also..i see there is a guy named eaglecris...are you the same eaglecris from youtubeīs
advance war videos???

well anyway...this goes to smashkirby...look dood...i know criticism may feel bad..i know
you may feel it is kind of an insult to you...but you have to understand...most people
here just tries to help you out..and you should at least accept what they say...and
realize if you have errors or not...the reason that they got all louded on you is because
you never accepted any of their suggestions....in this iīm just telling you..that is not
hte way of treating people..you must accept what others say..and if you think your idea is
better than theirs..then explain it to them..and try to explain it the frinedlier way you
can...i know this has from 2006 to burn you up....but i just thought i might be good to
see how itīs going....so please for future things...just try to be a little more
considerate and accept others or you will never progress anywhere...not just here..so
think about it...and get back to everyones comments and see by yourself what you
error...that is if you want to make some change and have better relationship with others
here...so iīm not pushing you to do it...however...it will be you the one with the problems
mc pabo (01/28/2009 06:53pm):
Never heard a man speak like this man before
Ultra Super Duper Noob (03/05/2009 11:00pm):
every1... chillax yo. anyway, needs random city islands here and there... and connecting
every island? just connect 2 at a time... though connecting TG and CI could be a
problem... and possibly an infantry on PC and PL to negate there "LTA" on their islands,
unless you make them a team or something... teams would make this map a lot better...
Nyvelion (03/06/2009 08:50am):
You should add airports.
airob (03/08/2009 03:10pm):
donīt put anything more on this map...this due is off from 2006
pen (07/23/2011 08:51pm):
(Read the top comments)

LEEEEAVE KIIIRBBY AAAALLLLOOOOOONNEEEEE!!!!!!! You are all lucky kirby made this
map for you BASTARDS!!!!! ALL YOU PEOPLE WANT IS MORE, MORE, MORE, MORE
MORE!!!!!! Anyone who has a problem with him, deal with me because is busy modifying this
map right now!!!!
pen (07/23/2011 09:05pm):
But seriously kirby, If you don't like critisism; just post that you don't want any..... While I'm at it
don't act like such a fag if you don't like what they say (They were polite, all you did was bitch
and moan when someone didn't agree with you). Criticism sounds pretty bad when you become
afraid of it.
Broadside (11/14/2011 11:06pm):
@pen:
no all we want is a map that makes sense. Nobody wants to play maps that are unfair.
This map is terribly unfair. Everyone understands that maps can be rough at first, and
there is nothing better than watching a bad map turn into a classic through community
input. How is he supposed to get better at map making if he doesnt listen to the people
with more experience than him?
@everyone who really likes this map:
can you please explain why you like this map or what is good about it?
kostar| (01/24/2017 12:10pm):
Kirby the wrong messiah of the maps!

We are waiting for your return to AWBW!
We want to complain more and more
An endless complaint

PD. Need more reefs
Xmo5 (10/30/2018 04:54pm):
Man, I miss maps with long comment chains, even the flamewars. Maybe that's why I dredge
the archives for things like this. Also, a grizly-sword reference? That's so 2006...

Also, this map sucks. Git gud. *ducks*



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