Creator: SmackCakes || First Published: 07/06/2007 || Players: 2 || Size: 31x16
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Tyrael (01/13/2008 03:53pm):
Great justice/10 |
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DuelStriker (01/19/2008 01:08pm):
Actually rated/10 |
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Harti1990 (02/13/2008 07:25am | Edited: 08/18/2008 07:56am):
The little islands could be just a little more worth to ship there. Otherwise very great map. 9/10 |
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rast2 (02/27/2008 04:47pm):
7/10 too many factories |
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SmackCakes (02/29/2008 09:29pm | Edited: 08/27/2019 05:06pm):
To be honest this map has exactly the number of factories I wanted for it to have, and which I believe it needs in order to accommodate its size and the multiple fronts. Also note that the bases are spread out, and arranged so that they are roughly 2 v 2 which is fairly standard. |
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rast2 (03/11/2008 05:42pm):
7/10 is above average. I'm not a "no obvious flaws, 9/10" type voter like some. I still think it has too many factories. Played the map once in league. It was OK but my opponent was noob so I'd have to play more before I change my opinion much. Don't care what you vote on 35 squares, not like you can lower the rating much. I'm the only one who makes games on it but: - I never have trouble getting opponents - It's fun and fast - I haven't had complaints from people who actually play the map. |
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SmackCakes (03/12/2008 02:50pm | Edited: 08/27/2019 05:08pm):
To be honest this is my favourite of all my maps, in some ways I would rather people didn't comment on it at all, I'm not looking for feedback, I like it fine exactly how it is. Some people have said nice things about it and even rated it 10. Which I do appreciate. It makes me happy that other people enjoy it too. |
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rast2 (03/12/2008 04:00pm):
Sorry, I'm not here to make you happy. "7/10, too many bases" is a reasonable comment. It isn't wildly positive, but it isn't rude or disrespectful the way "1/10 this is shit noone should play it" would be. If you can't tell the difference between those two comments, the problem is you, not me. If you get upset because one person gives a 7 to your map that everyone else gave 9 or 10 to, the problem is you, not me. If you think my comment somehow defaces your map, the problem is you, not me. |
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SmackCakes (03/18/2008 03:42pm):
The structure of the map is basically 2 identical islands. Each Island has two bases per side and one neutral. That is actually less then most A-Rank maps which tend to have 2 neutrals. So I don't see how your comment is justified unless you believe all maps have too many bases? The problem is not me, the problem is you. I have not ever seen you say any thing which wasn't critical, rude and generally negative. Neither here nor on the forum. I would like to know what exactly makes you think you have the right to go round telling people so arrogantly that they have 'too many bases' or that things aren't being run properly? What have you done which is so great? What makes you such an expert? It certainly isn't your maps. |
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Heartless rockzorz (03/26/2008 11:38pm):
Rast, I don't think Smack has a problem with getting a 7. I think what he has a problem with is the fact that your critic of the map is just a single useless sentence. Saying only the negatives in a map comment is the best way to get hated. Just look at what happened to jhuni before he started spamming his thesaurus. He gave useful tips, but because he concentrated on the flaws, he was and is still probably one of the most hated users. Try something like: This map seems interesting, but I think it has too many bases. That way, poor ol' Smacky won't want your entrails for dinner with your blood to drink. Oh and BTW, I gave jhuni as an example of someone giving useful tips, but most of yours suck anyway :P You're basicly telling everyone to follow the 2 base + inf + maybe a neutral base formula that new map makers should actually avoid. It's very possible that a map that doesn't follow the formula is fair and fun. From past experience, I can tell that not trying to find something new is a direct was to become an awful map maker. |
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DuelStriker (03/28/2008 05:42pm):
I don't see how it's base heavy. Considering the amount of funds on this map, and the number of fronts to defend, there's just enough bases. |
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rast2 (03/28/2008 06:10pm):
OK point taken Heartless. Though presumably the map maker would already know what's good about the map... ;-) Smack, you still need to learn to deal with criticism. I make a negative comment about your map and you break out the personal attacks, hyperbole, and lies. |
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Ducky (04/09/2008 07:34pm):
Lets all complain about the maps that the game actually has in it's list for having the bases that they do next. |
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DuelStriker (04/16/2008 06:28pm):
Or not. |
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Bil_Diewalk (04/26/2008 11:39am | Edited: 04/26/2008 11:39am):
-likes: cool map fun to play no stalemates -dislikes: ratatoskr lost on it in the 3rd aw campaign >_> |
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zywxn (04/26/2008 09:20pm | Edited: 04/26/2008 09:23pm):
Very nice design, I like the way its 2 hearts made together, i dont care what rast2 says but this map is well balanced with an even amount of properties for both sides. The islands shouldnt have something else instead of a city as it will use a lot of landers to transport and it will make the city to base ratio change. Perhaps give BM one infantry or mech because PC's 2 infantry gives them a head start in capturing airports or com tower. 9/10 If possible I suggest renaming it Let's Kill Rast2 Land. |
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nerd-boy (04/30/2008 03:26pm | Edited: 04/30/2008 03:32pm):
I'd suggest making a different Let's Kill Rast2 Land. Pleeeease Smacky? By the way, a similar thing happened here as did on my Cornerstones (reference link: http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=34719), where someone gave it a 1/10 for the sole reason that it was a ground-only map. No other comments, just "add air/sea and it gets a 7/10". Since he obviously didn't realize that adding air would disrupt the balance of the map (like changing the base structure would alter that of Smacky's map here) I had to call him out on it. So yeah, Smacky I feel your pain. Kinda. |
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Ploumeur (05/02/2008 12:47pm):
10/10, though I think there's not enough factories. Max can be very strong if you manage to avoid stalemates. |
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lordliam (05/07/2008 10:10pm):
it's ok 9/10 :P btw i read everything everyone wrote, it took a long time and i think i agree with whoever maked this map :P |
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Mafiasco (05/16/2008 06:54am):
i rated 1/10 just to see the rageeeeeeee just kidding |
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Dhomochevsky (05/27/2008 08:05am):
smacky/10 |
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Dhomochevsky (05/27/2008 08:05am):
also i love this map |
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AfterImage (06/15/2008 11:22am):
EVERYONE, LETS TEAM UP ON RAST2 Come on guys, he has a valid opinion. >_> |
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Meta Rexy (07/14/2008 06:17pm | Edited: 07/14/2008 06:18pm):
I'm really impressed. :D 9/10 The only thing worth mentioning is a minor chokepoint problem in the middle of the battlefield. Great work! :D |
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sulla (07/25/2008 05:15pm):
Too many bases/10 |
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DuelStriker (07/27/2008 12:15pm):
Not really/10 |
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ChocolateVodka (11/11/2008 10:11pm):
too much hate. look what you started rast. |
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sulla (11/13/2008 10:00am | Edited: 11/13/2008 10:01am):
hmmmm I give this a 7 perhaps a bit too base heavy. |
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Borglum (05/12/2009 01:58pm):
Time to build another one, great architect Smack... |
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Borglum (05/13/2009 12:31pm):
Also, do you live on the East coast and interested in going on a date with a handsome stranger? |
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Borglum (05/13/2009 12:31pm):
Also, do you live on the East coast and interested in going on a date with a handsome stranger? |
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Borglum (05/13/2009 01:54pm):
No matter... you're a ten in my book, and you know what I mean! |
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Armageddon07 (06/15/2009 02:41pm):
DuelStriker (01/19/2008 01:08pm): Actually rated/10 lol |
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airob (09/23/2009 09:46pm):
nice city placement |
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Usthepeople (11/05/2009 11:15pm):
love it/10 |
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400lingrush (04/08/2010 11:06pm):
1/10 same as all your other maps; horribly chokey, pointless islands, "lolrandom" concepts, etc this kind of map is won through endurance: whoever gets bored last wins. |
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Luxferre (04/29/2010 12:36pm):
Awesome Map, I am currently playing on it, and it is really fun. 9/10 |
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DraconisMarch (07/20/2011 04:30pm | Edited: 07/20/2011 05:17pm):
I think 5 bases per side is only really justifiable on a retardedly huge map. I dunno. Infantry spam and mech flood will be huge problems. |
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xepa (08/15/2011 07:21pm):
There's a symmetry error... in the road aside the city 2 blocks South from PC infantry, =p but I still like this map |
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xushu (10/12/2011 11:32am):
Not a bad map, but the play tends to be similar: attrition wins. 8/10 |
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Buwaro (05/31/2012 09:52am):
There is something that is bothering me. Why does this map have a S-rank while the Map Comitee only gave it a 6.75? |
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Slazzy (01/07/2015 05:13pm):
xepa: what a trivial thing.. |
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Slazzy (01/07/2015 05:14pm | Edited: 02/06/2017 08:20pm):
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Nyvelion (01/27/2015 05:42pm):
Mmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllloooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnn come back we love you |
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Jackie Milton (09/23/2015 07:22pm):
7/10 Too many factories |
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Slazzy (07/14/2018 11:20am | Edited: 12/11/2018 05:27am):
9.999/10 |
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