The Diamond
Creator: Kruegstr || First Published: 12/21/2008 || Players: 2 || Size: 17x17
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Comments:
blanci1 (12/21/2008 02:39am):
Nice little training ground. But
isnt the fta infantry is too far back ?....... let me play brown and you take pink ! ...after my
2nd day i m gonna be having 2 guys rushing forward capturing while your 3 are still on the
start line.... i think the fta infantry on a start base works here better?..... though maybe
needs testing anyways ...small maps can be sensitive.
Kruegster (12/21/2008 01:04pm):
If the pink infantry were on a base, he could be the first to the center base. And I don't think
brown could stop such a center rush.

As the map is now, if brown rushes to the middle base, then pink will have the extra infantry
to attack it, so brown's center rush will not work.

Because the map is so small, I put the pink infantry back a bit futher; if one payer could rush
to that center base and capture it first, he would probably win.

Sure blani1, I will play you as pink, and you can be brown. I am pretty sure that the map is
fair.
DuelStriker (12/21/2008 01:28pm):
The FTA counter needs to be on one of PC's bases.
Kruegster (12/21/2008 08:25pm | Edited: 12/26/2008 10:16am):
I just erased my huge explination of why pink can't have an infantry on a base. I beleive a
good solution to the problem of the FTA is first removing the center city, AND THEN moving
pink's infantry to a base.

link: http://amarriner.com/awbw_forum/viewtopic.php?t=8518 figure 16 shows a clearer
instance of why it may be unfair to give the second player an infatry on a base. After
playing on the map, I now realize that there may not be a PERFECT counter for the FTA. As
the map is (with a city in the middle and pink's infantry in the diamond's corner), it is
close to being fair, but thats not good enough.

I cannot think of any way to make the the map fairer, other than removing the center city,
and then moving the infantry to the base. So when no games are being played on this map
there will be an empty silo in the middle, and the pink infantry will be moved up to the base.
blanci1 (01/03/2009 07:04am):
Having tested the map with kruegster i think he has a point .... its unclear to me ..
but certainly putting it on a base might give pink an advantage ...
though im not really sure either player can try an early centre grab since the infantry just
gets shot up .. and appears over advanced.
Usually standard maps are not so small and sensitive ... so maybe the usual procedure may
not work here? but maybe it s ok ??

Kreugers proposed correction seems very fair ... but it would be nice to see the original
debated. Theres probly loads of different expert opinions possible !
Kruegstr (01/03/2009 08:48pm):
I wouldn't mind hearing an expert argue about how to to counter the FTA if I put the city back
in the middle. Though to be honest, If I put the city back in the middle, I think it is imposible that
there is a perfectly fair way of countering the FTA; after all, no matter where I predeploy
infantry for either player, one player will ALWAYS be able to get to the center city first.

As the map is now, it is fair. Pink can get to the bottom constestable city first, and brown
can get to the top contestable city first.



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