Scorpion Operation
Creator: tst5381 || First Published: 12/22/2009 || Players: 2 || Size: 25x14
Categories: S-Rank, Hall of Fame, Standard
Rating: 5.73 in 118 ratings
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Comments:
airob (12/22/2009 02:30pm):
nice map! really it just needs an FTA counter, and i think the airports are contested, you
should fix that
funwes (12/22/2009 03:17pm):
Ban Sturm, I'd say. Solid map.
DuelStriker (12/22/2009 04:56pm):
I really like this map.
Red11 (12/23/2009 01:49am):
Yeah, she's a beauty!
airob (12/23/2009 03:43pm):
i can help youplaytest it if you want, i like this map and totally love that mountain pass
tst5381 (12/24/2009 03:43am):
If you can, I shall give you a big thanks :)
Everyone is welcome to help playtest it and I'm willing to get some feedback.
airob (12/31/2009 06:13pm):
k i played on the map,it´s very good and has a lot of options. one thing that bothers me
though is that it becomes too copter spammed, which a single AA cripples the other player,
it´s like about who makes the first AA...otherwise i really like this map, mechs can be
put to good use here too.
airob (03/05/2010 06:50pm):
erm....i have something to say here...i really liked the older version of this map(wihout
the extra neutral base) these bases are too close to each other and overral the map was
really better before...with just 3 bases
Hellraider (03/05/2010 06:51pm):
I think you should remove the neutral middle base again. The map (I have played on it) was
very interesting because you only had this one base to cover 2 fronts. Now it probably will
be a very huge infantry standoff fest.
tst5381 (03/17/2010 10:45am):
...You're right. (fixed)
Ratatoskr (11/05/2010 08:18pm):
The opening is very interesting, which is sadly unusual around here. Great map!
tst5384 (10/21/2011 10:37pm | Edited: 10/21/2011 10:40pm):
Recently I reviewed this map and thought that I should swap the (5,5) factory and the
(6,3) city. This will reduce the pressure on the one base side, and make supporting HQ
more easily. Any thoughts?
Roswell the Black Rose (10/26/2011 12:40am):
this map is playable now, but it's air heavy. gaining air control is very important I'd
replace the hill (13,1) and (8,3) with forests, which make vehicles accessible
between the 2-base side and 1-base side.
tst5384 (10/27/2011 01:22am):
well, i didnt see hill at (13,1)...
Roswell the Black Rose (10/29/2011 11:53pm):
i mean the hill left to the upper airport, and the hill left to a neutral city.
walkerboh01 (11/07/2011 04:43pm):
I think it's perfectly fine as it is, to be honest.
Desklamp (02/08/2012 03:18pm):
I agree with Ratatoskr. This map leads to fascinating games right from the start. 10/10!
Mori2 (03/06/2012 10:20pm):
One of my favorite maps on the entire website. Such creative use of heavy terrain and rivers.
Kruegster (03/20/2012 07:15pm):
This is the greatest AWBW map I have every played on!

There are so many different strategic possibilities on this map. You need to decide when to
make inf, mech, recons, art, tanks, AAs, copters, and eventually rockets. If made at the
right time, almost any type of unit could effectively be used on this map, and there are
numerous possibilities for how games could play out. Obviously 10/10 -It is an amazing
map!!!

tst5384 (04/27/2013 11:25pm):
Since this map finally retired from global league, I implemented several changes on it,
including moving one of the bases backward, opening another entrance to the so-called
"canyon", and building up bridges between the airport and base.
Walker Boh (07/25/2013 10:34pm):
Hard to say whether the edits really improve the map at all...
pen (07/16/2014 02:33pm):
You don't look like a scorpion.
walkerboh01 (01/14/2015 11:56pm):
I'm going to go out and say that the edits actively make the map significantly worse than it used
to me. This makes me really sad.
blanci1 (01/27/2015 01:23am | Edited: 01/27/2015 01:24am):
Strong german player Kruegster said "This is the greatest AWBW map I have every played on! ".
Tst changes map after it had a good run in global . What a pity.
It would have been easy for tst to just make a seperate new version of the map. Then
everyone would be happy and we wouldnt lose a bit of history. Also the map would be
available for newcomers or for future tourney etc.
Really the bigger problem is AWBers dont see that its almost always possible to create new
and we dont need to destroy things which people like. We are NOT running out of space. If
we were, then the hundred thousand rubbish maps that no one even looks at should be
erased. Actually the real information content in all awbw maps is hardly a fraction of
one music cd, though maybe it is stored highly inefficiently.

walkerboh01 (02/05/2015 02:41am):
Yeah I actually take back my criticism above after playing a couple more games on the new
version. This map still kicks ass. Though I do agree with blanci that having the original version
would be nice as well... Maybe I can dig up an old replay with the original and restore it.
tst5385 (02/15/2015 05:57am):
Well, I did have the concept of version control you know... just that I wanted to force ppl to try the new
one though. Now it has been out for a while so I guess if the community perfer the original one, here it
is: http://awbw.amarriner.com/prevmaps.php?maps_id=66103
Improving (07/10/2021 08:18pm):
The map is not symmetrical. There is a forest missing next to the mountain at (03,11). There is one at (21,02).
AManCalledArse (07/13/2021 02:50pm):
Can't believe it took 6 years for someone to point out that missing Forest at (03,11) Unfortunately it doesn't look like tst is active anymore.
tst5381 (09/13/2021 02:05am):
Holy shit! How could I make such a stupid mistake...
I want to fix it but wonder if I could ever find a window where there's no games on it.
walkerboh01 (09/13/2021 04:18pm):
This map is in the Hall of Fame as one of the most influential standard competitive maps of its era (approx. 2007 - 2010).
SonjaTheSuperior (09/14/2021 01:15pm):
The legend himself...

For fixing the mistake, you could unpublish it (which would stop new games from being created on it manually).

You may also be interested in joining the awbw discord, since its a big deal now (most of where the conversation goes on)
tst5381 (09/15/2021 04:13pm):
Thanks! I did it. There seems to be one private game not started yet. Gotta wait until that one ends.
I'm in the discord server a while ago. Didn't speak though.
tst5381 (09/20/2021 12:54pm):
Fixed now.
Mr.Greensuit (10/14/2021 08:56pm):
My most hated map so far. I'd sure like to see the percentage of copters spammed here I don't know why people like this. I wish you could self-ban a few maps in league play.
FOR DEMACIAAAAAA (10/23/2021 10:48pm):
awful map, no diversty. either spam copters or lose
Tmi489 (10/25/2021 12:52am):
When Drake's free, it becomes a SCOP-ion operation!
...
It feels like I'm the first one to make that pun
CheesuS (11/19/2021 06:15pm):
Never smoked in my life but this map gave me cancer anyway
Quickslow87 (01/17/2022 03:20pm):
Definitely found copters to be very powerful for harassment.
Jo_Slamma_Jamma (01/24/2022 12:00am):
Why is this god awful map still in the pool for league matches? I'm not asking for this map to be deleted, but for the love of god
whoever owns or manages AWBW just remove this from the league pool. Playing on this map is like undergoing chemo
therapy. Yeah you won against cancer (i.e. playing on this map and winning), but what did you have to go through?
Rishi is Here (03/03/2022 11:49am):
great map
i hate it
medium_md_tank (03/15/2022 08:36pm):
great map
i love it
JimmyDymo (03/22/2022 12:40pm | Edited: 04/04/2022 10:32am):
Personally hate this map. I see why some people like but it plays to all of my weaknesses. About to play it for the 6th
time...I've
never won on this map...frick me, here we go again.

I wouldn't mind it so much if it didn't come up in the rotation so damn often.

Update: just got assigned this level again! why is this my most played map! What god or demon to I need to pray to to stop
getting assigned this map!
likegel (01/22/2023 05:16am | Edited: 01/22/2023 05:27am):
Not so good, not so bad.But this map is rather counter-intuitive, based on personal , 1 Rating

However, compared with other maps, the battle line is more open. The soldiers from the two bases can only start from the
side road and will be ambushed by the artillery in the valley.

The city in the middle of the valley, together with the artillery, is almost unstoppable.

In addition, the central region can only be supported by the independent base. The other side needs to go around to its own
HQ, which can be basically ignored.

Thus, Mech and helicopters that can cross the mountains can attack the artillery in the valley and support the central area.
The tank troops were only beaten by artillery.

Therefore, the game strategy should be that the independent base needs to take into account the side defense and the
central area defense. On the side of the two bases, the artillery needs to advance slowly.

I think should give more roads to let the rocket pass quickly.

In addition, the cities in the valley give too high an advantage. As long as the independent base is occupied, it can easily
defend the enemy's attack.

In general, for a standard map with a relatively fast pace, it has a very winding terrain and a valley with cities.

Max can leave the stage quietly.

In a word, this map gives people who are familiar with it great advantages. Although it looks
like a standard fast-paced map at first sight, in fact, this map requires both artillery and helicopter.
likegel (01/22/2023 06:37am):
In addition, from the maps I have played, most of the Hall of Fame maps are hell of novice
dision (06/02/2023 09:29am):
I've never seen a map so easily cheesable via artillery spam as this one.
JΩsh_Augur (06/06/2023 09:04pm | Edited: 01/07/2024 01:46pm):
artillery and b copter spam is way too easy because of all the mountains and cramped space, really trash map, i feel like a
comm tower would REALLY improve this map
Tenryu (06/17/2023 06:25pm):
This map needs a com tower, idc on weak or strong side (pref on weak side) but the inf spam with 3 bases on top of having safe mountains and choky side lanes is way too hard. map itself is fine, just too stally and plays bad without com.
Ahahsoboo (06/23/2023 06:42pm):
I guess this is a good map if you like having 3 tiny tubes to be forced to fight in or only use infantry.
red_roman (07/12/2023 11:52pm):
A top level map here! Easy and intuitive to play, and a lot of viable tactics which means good
variation depending on which COs you use.
giveNOquarter (08/01/2023 04:07pm):
Copter/Mech Spam Operation lol
dision (09/26/2023 10:15am):
I hate this fucking map
ViridisViperz (10/05/2023 01:43am):
5/10 too many single tile choke points. At least there's an open path in the center, but
this is still a chokey tedious nightmare.
Scylaac (10/18/2023 05:55am):
copter have to much of an advantage here as they don't have any counter but themselve on this map.


RedstoneFan37 (11/26/2023 04:49pm):
19k equal income
Blackboat (03/24/2025 10:51am):
Awesome map. Only downside imo, is that P1 is able to build the first copter without any base skipping and gets great early
pressure. Currently P1 was a 53% win-rate after 6500+ games. May not be decisive but an advantage nonetheless.



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