Europa 50*50
Creator: dorian5-01 || First Published: 05/09/2013 || Players: 8 || Size: 50x50
Categories: None
Rating: 8.50 in 16 ratings
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Comments:
dorian5-01 (05/09/2013 11:15am):
I would like to hear the opinion of Ignorance.
Ignorance (05/10/2013 04:41pm):
First of all, damn you. I wish I could of made my map this big. Lol

Secondly, I like the idea, but I personally think a few tweaks would be made to improve
the game play mate. Maybe the bases are a bit far away from the battle field in a map this
large for my tastes, and the supply line to the front lines will be a bit annoying for
players I think.

Also, with the positioning of the countries/players, I know you're going for a
geographical map here, but I think Italy is too choke-y on it's borders, as does BD. I
know it's hard to create balance on maps like this and maps that are this large, but it
also seems like France has it the hardest, while RF sits back and watches, AM, and GE will
team up on OS, since Italy can steal some land and sit back while either building up for
an attack or defending from the incoming threat of BD, and BM and CI will be slowly
fighting it out.

Only thing I dislike about this map to be honest, is if someone drops out. I mean, it'll
take ages to get to the dropped out base, but also if any other country than France and
maybe Italy, then it's you can guarantee it will become unfair quickly. And perhaps you
could change the funds around, as it is some get a lot more than others, and sure it's the
distance thing, but I guess you'll just need to come up with a way of making a balanced
40x40+ tile map. Good luck with that!

6/10 for now (Just because you got lazy and didn't effort into detail. Lol
amigo1234 (05/10/2013 05:09pm):
wow ESTUPIDO IGNORANCE SAID "I COULD OF MADE MY MAP THIS BIG" SO STUPID DONT
KNOW HOW TO USE PROPER GRAMMAR STUPID FUCK IGNORANCE IT'S COULD HAVE NOT
COULD OF ESTUPIDO NO BRAIN AND ALSO I SEE HE SAID THAT HE IS NATIVE ENGLISH
SPEAKER BUT DOESN'T KNOW SIMPLE GRAMMAR LIKE THAT SO STUPID FUCK ESTUPIDO NO
BRAIN IS IGNORANCE NO BRAIN PPEOPLE ESTUPIDO STUPID FUCK
Experienced Players (05/10/2013 06:40pm):
is this real life? did amigo1234 just criticize someone's grammar for a full paragraph,
using (as always) completely terrible grammar himself?
Meta Rexy (08/11/2018 07:54pm):
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Classic Amigo.

Nonetheless, I can't believe it took so long to get a viable alternative to the European
Diplomats map.

Great job! This one looks really good! And it has air units too!
Tinkus (11/18/2021 11:36pm):
I think OS should be replaced with PL, and PC replaced with JS for obvious reasons. It's a possibility to replace BD with PC,
but BD it works given the arid environments of Serbia and Turkey. I'd also consider replacing AB with OS, given that quite a
few Americans on the west coast and in the south speak Spanish. Other than that, this is a really nice representation of
Europe.

In terms of gameplay I think you've done a reasonable enough job balancing everything and not making it too hard on the
central countries if you have Spain be considered a part of the Axis Powers of WWII. Makes for an interesting time for
France though. I also think that maybe pushing BM to be more Ukranian (considering they were apart of the USSR during
WWII) to get them into the action more quickly would also spice things up a bit. Puts more pressure on Turkey and Germany,
and lets BM get into the action faster.
ChroloWA (01/20/2022 03:16am):
I really like the map, but the Com Towers seem to be not fair enough. Like Green Earth and Orange Star already have the
toughest positions and then they have to battle for a Com Tower far away or just give it up to their enemies.
Anyway, I'll play and see it soon
Le lieu tenant (02/03/2022 03:49pm):
france can not win on this map...
HittingWomenIsBad (02/08/2022 08:37pm):
Great map! I think Spain should have more cities!
Unggoy Slaya (05/11/2022 03:13pm):
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ADD AND EXTRA BASE OR TWO!!!!

But seriously, only having two bases to produce from, especially on the land centric countries like Germany and Russia, is just
bonkers. You have to choose between either producing two infantry and wasting a bunch of money you cannot spend, just so
you can keep capturing stuff. Or you pick two expensive offensive units like neo tanks, but cannot build anything to support.
The two base limit is a huge slow down on this map, please make it three.
AybeesKitty (05/21/2022 09:26pm):
Dam ppl talk too much shit since when does advice have to be so negative
JimmyDymo (11/10/2022 12:57pm | Edited: 11/10/2022 12:58pm):
This is by far my favorite map to play on. There's just so many ways to play it and have fun with it.

After a couple play throughs this is my feedback.
The turn order should probably be Germany, France, England, Italy, Spain, Sweden, Turkey, Russia.

Germany gets the free infantry to get their income rolling a bit faster, but even still France tends to get their economy up
quicker, helping them out with the FTA might be a difference maker.

England is missing a port, which really limits what it can do. I think a port at Belfast would be good for them. Also they're
income cap is pretty limited. It's super hard for them to get their economy up. Maybe moving Ireland a bit west and adding
the Isle of Man, Faroe Island, and Shetland Island and putting a city on each would help them grow their economy better
and force a bit more conflict over the vast ocean, (which the British should embrace). Adding one or two more
shorelines in Norway would be a good way to give the British more amphibious landing options. Also mainland England is
super vulnerable to Rocket fire from France. I think moving England west 1 space, and Ireland over 2 would give that team
more freedom to actually get in there and play.

Russian/Swedish Port- The land locked port in the north should be set free. Russia doesn't really have access to ocean,
Their Baltic and Black sea fleets are only defensive. This is geopolitically accurate, but it doesn't necessarily make the map
more fun to play.

I think the ComTower set up is good.
wubbzo (11/14/2022 07:56am):
this map looks like it would only be playable with teams enabled. the FTA looks like it would be atrocious for a FFA ... some
nations start with 2 units, and some start with only 1 base.. so yeah seems fine for teams I guess but for FFA it looks really
unbalanced for the capture game



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